Looks like almost exactly the same carriage as a Mod 39 da 47-32 - which Aberdeen already has one of... But the muzzle brake and a few other small details are different...





Here's the museum's Mod 39 da 47-32 for comparison.





Neil

I believe the top one is Cannone da 47-32 M35 and the bottom one is a Mod 39 da 47-32 47mm. That's probably not the official names but you get the idea. Some of the guys here will know the official names..

Thanks Joe,
Here's another one I need help with.



Thanks,

Neil

Russian 45 mm anti-tank gun M1942 (M-42)
as you can see I have a handy file of Aberdeen artillery

Neil, I am checking this thread for the first time. I guess I could help on italian or swiss 47 mm guns. But the images are missing

Massimo

Massimo, I believe we have them IDed. Thanks

Are you sure? If they have a muzzle brake they aren't italian 47 mm pieces.

Massimo

Massino is this one a Italian Cannone da 47-32 M35?

No, it's either dutch, austrian or swiss

Massimo

Aberdeen had it labeled as such, any idea what nationality? i see this is a pretty complicated subject as seen on this thread which I haven't read yet:
click here tinyurl.com/yenjp23

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Aberdeen had it labeled as such, any idea what nationality?

Aberdeen is wrong. It could be a captured piece used by the Italian Army, but it's not the italian build version. The germans gave the italian equipment captured elsewhere, like Skoda guns from Yugoslavia and Poland. I think I've read the italians got former dutch and austrian 47 mm too, but I don't remember seeing pictures of them.

Massimo

Hi folks,

I have to agree with Massimo, it is an Bohler 47mm AT gun

However it is not Dutch
The Dutch guns of WW2 used spoked rims and had an different type of muzzle break

There is one, allmost identical, at Amersfoort - The Netherlands
Only that is an post-WW2 Swiss gun, with the same muzzle break and same type of wheels (only different tire thread)

There are some picture's of it in the "Artillery in The Netherlands 47mm PAG Bohler" thread

Michel

Some shots of the swiss version are visible here:
www.com-central.net/in...ic&t=11825

Massimo

Hello,
I fixed the picture links above.

If one or both is not Italian, is this one wrong too?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...rden_1.jpg

And this one?

www.comandosupremo.com...e4732.html

Neil

The one without the muzzle brake looks italian (same for the gun in Borden).
The gun with the muzzle brake matches the swiss model. I wonder how it end up in Aberdeen.

Massimo