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Neil_Baumgardner Power User

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armyjunk2 Power User

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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed - Italian Anti-Tank piece? |
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I believe the top one is Cannone da 47-32 M35 and the bottom one is a Mod 39 da 47-32 47mm. That's probably not the official names but you get the idea. Some of the guys here will know the official names..
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Neil_Baumgardner Power User

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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed - Italian Anti-Tank piece? |
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Thanks Joe,
Here's another one I need help with.
Thanks,
Neil
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armyjunk2 Power User

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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed - Anti-Tank pieces? |
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Russian 45 mm anti-tank gun M1942 (M-42)
as you can see I have a handy file of Aberdeen artillery
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Massimo_Foti Power User

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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed - Anti-Tank pieces? |
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Neil, I am checking this thread for the first time. I guess I could help on italian or swiss 47 mm guns. But the images are missing
Massimo
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armyjunk2 Power User

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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:46 am Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed - Anti-Tank pieces? |
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Massimo, I believe we have them IDed. Thanks
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Massimo_Foti Power User

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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed - Anti-Tank pieces? |
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Are you sure? If they have a muzzle brake they aren't italian 47 mm pieces.
Massimo
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armyjunk2 Power User

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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:47 am Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed - Anti-Tank pieces? |
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Massino is this one a Italian Cannone da 47-32 M35?
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Massimo_Foti Power User

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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:03 am Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed - Anti-Tank pieces? |
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No, it's either dutch, austrian or swiss
Massimo
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armyjunk2 Power User

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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed - Anti-Tank pieces? |
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Aberdeen had it labeled as such, any idea what nationality? i see this is a pretty complicated subject as seen on this thread which I haven't read yet:
click here tinyurl.com/yenjp23
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Massimo_Foti Power User

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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed - Anti-Tank pieces? |
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Aberdeen had it labeled as such, any idea what nationality? |
Aberdeen is wrong. It could be a captured piece used by the Italian Army, but it's not the italian build version. The germans gave the italian equipment captured elsewhere, like Skoda guns from Yugoslavia and Poland. I think I've read the italians got former dutch and austrian 47 mm too, but I don't remember seeing pictures of them.
Massimo
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Michel_Krauss Power User

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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed - Anti-Tank pieces? |
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Hi folks,
I have to agree with Massimo, it is an Bohler 47mm AT gun
However it is not Dutch
The Dutch guns of WW2 used spoked rims and had an different type of muzzle break
There is one, allmost identical, at Amersfoort - The Netherlands
Only that is an post-WW2 Swiss gun, with the same muzzle break and same type of wheels (only different tire thread)
There are some picture's of it in the "Artillery in The Netherlands 47mm PAG Bohler" thread
Michel
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Massimo_Foti Power User

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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed - Anti-Tank pieces? |
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Some shots of the swiss version are visible here:
www.com-central.net/in...ic&t=11825
Massimo
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Neil_Baumgardner Power User

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Massimo_Foti Power User

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:17 am Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed - Anti-Tank pieces? |
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The one without the muzzle brake looks italian (same for the gun in Borden).
The gun with the muzzle brake matches the swiss model. I wonder how it end up in Aberdeen.
Massimo
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